QURANIST & SUBMITTERS

 

The hadith follower class those who reject their hadith are misguided, they call them Quranion, Quran only, Quran alone. But some has selected their own title and they proudly call their self such as   

 

Quranist

Submitters

 

The Quranist usually reject all hadith while the Submitters accept only those one which in their favourer. Despite both of them cults reject manmade hadith, yet they created their own version which base on-

 

 New translation or Interpretations

 

Code 19 calculations or Appendix 

 

 

To me those two cults are far worse then Shia or Sunni, because the Quranist mostly mistranslate Al-Quran by juggling with root words and grammar. While the submitter use their bogus mathematic code 19 which has no formula. And both of their corruptions create contradiction and confusion within Al-Quran.

 

The Submitter also reject two verses in the base of sunni’s  hadith which they suppose to reject, since they don’t have any other proof so they have to accept them manmade hadith in that issue. Anyway since they openly reject two verses, therefore to me they fall in the category of Kafiroon.

 

Both of them cults try to propagate their garbage as the massage of Al-Quran. Yet they forget their roots juggling / dictionary or the code 19 is also manmade.

 

So why do they complain when Shia / Sunni use their manmade hadith, and are they not doing the same thing as them?

 

They sometime argue that, they are not another sects in Islam and they are just believers. While I find no difference between them and other sects especially when they too doing exactly same activity like others sectarian which make them sect too, such as-

 

Busy spreading nonsense theory

Trying to brainwash many people as possible

Selected their own name for their sects  

Obeying their leaders blindly

Have members in their sects

Collecting donations

Claiming they are in truth

Unable to defend their garbage

 

However the history proves there were always some people following Al-Quran as only source of guidance sincerely and personally, yet some have created new sects such as Mutazila and tul-e-islam, IIPC

 

 

I use Al-Quran as source of guidance in the light of Al-Kitab. And I have no interest to invent another sect, which I clarify on my home page.

 

If I have no interest of propagation, then why am I publishing this website ?

  

Again the answer of above question, is already mentioned on my home-page. I simply want to scrutinise my own understanding, and like to face any challenge form those who wish to challenge.

 

ABOUT THE TITLE “MUSLIM”

 

The Quranist & submitters don’t like to call their self Muslim, they try to validate their titles with confused description. Yet they forget their homemade title is simply not supported by Al-Quran, exactly same as Sunni’s title which not supported either. Anyway all the verse below which indicate and proves the believers title are only “Muslim” and nothing else.

 

VERSES INDICATE “MUSLIM” AS TITLE

 

The Quran 3:52

Then when 'Îsa (Jesus) came to know of their disbelief, he said: "Who will be my helpers in Allah's Cause?" Al-Hawariyyun said: "We are the helpers of Allah; we believe in Allah, and bear witness that we are MUSLIM 

The Quran  3:67

Ibrahim  was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was a true MUSLIM Hanifa and he was not of Al-Mushrikun.

 

The Quran 5:111

And when I (Allah) revealed to Al-Hawariyyun  to believe in Me and My Messenger, they said: "We believe. And bear witness that we are MUSLIM

 

The Quran 6:163

"He has no partner. And of this I have been commanded, and I am the first of the MUSLIM

 

The Quran 7:126

"And you take vengeance on us only because we believed in the Ayat of our Lord when they reached us! Our Lord! pour out on us patience, and cause us to die as MUSLIM

 

The Quran 10:72

"But if you turn away then no reward have I asked of you; my reward is only from Allah, and I have been commanded to be of the MUSLIM

 

The Quran 10:84

And Musa (Moses) said: "O my people! If you have believed in Allah, then put your trust in Him if you are MUSLIM.

 

The Quran 10:90

And We took the Children of Israel across the sea, and Fir'aun (Pharaoh) with his hosts followed them in oppression and enmity, till when drowning overtook him, he said: "I believe that none has the right to be worshipped but He (Allah) in Whom the Children of Israel believe, and I am one of the MUSLIM

 

The Quran 11:14

If then they answer you not, know then that it [the Revelation (this Qur'an)] is sent down with the Knowledge of Allah and that La ilaha illa Huwa Will you then be MUSLIM

 

The Quran 12:101

"My Lord! You have indeed bestowed on me of the sovereignty, and taught me something of the interpretation of dreams - the (Only) Creator of the heavens and the earth! You are my Wali in this world and in the Hereafter. Cause me to die as a MUSLIM , and join me with the righteous." 

The Quran 15;2

How much would those who disbelieved wish that they had been MUSLIM

 

The Quran 27:31

"Be you not exalted against me, but come to me as MUSLIM

 

The Quran 27:91

I  have been commanded only to worship the Lord of this city (Makkah), Who has sanctified it and to Whom belongs everything. And I am commanded to be from among the MUSLIM

 

The Quran 28:53

And when it is recited to them, they say: "We believe in it. Verily, it is the truth from our Lord. Indeed even before it we have been from those who submit themselves to Allah in Islam as MUSLIMs

 

The Quran 33:35

Verily, the MUSLIM  men and women, the believers men and women, the men and the women who are obedient (to Allah), the men and women who are truthful , the men and the women who are patient ,the men and the women who are humble,the men and the women who observe Saum (fast) the men and the women who guard their chastity and the men and the women who remember Allah much with their hearts and tongues Allah has prepared for them forgiveness and a great reward

 

The Quran 39:12

And I am commanded in order that I may be the first of those who submit themselves to Allah  as MUSLIM

 

The Quran 42:33

And who is better in speech than he who says: "My Lord is Allah  and then stands firm , and invites (men) to Allah's , and does righteous deeds, and says: "I am one of the MUSLIM

 

The Quran 43:69

Who believed in Our Ayat and were MUSLIM

 

The Quran 46:15

And We have enjoined on man to be dutiful and kind to his parents. His mother bears him with hardship. And she brings him forth with hardship, and the bearing of him, and the weaning of him is thirty months, till when he attains full strength and reaches forty years, he says: "My Lord! Grant me the power and ability that I may be grateful for Your Favour which You have bestowed upon me and upon my parents, and that I may do righteous good deeds, such as please You, and make my offspring good. Truly, I have turned to You in repentance, and truly, I am one of the MUSLIM

 

The Quran 51:36

But We found not there any household of the MUSLIM except one

 

The Quran 66:5

It may be if he divorced you  that his Lord will give him instead of you, wives better than you - MUSLIM, believers, obedient (to Allah), turning to Allah in repentance, worshipping Allah sincerely, given to fasting or emigrants , previously married and virgins.

 

The Quran 68:35

Shall We then treat the MUSLIM like the Mujrimun

 

The Quran 72:14

'And of us some are MUSLIM and of us some are Al-Qasitun. And whosoever has embraced Islam, then such have sought the Right Path.

 

 

MAIN VERSE ON THIS ISSUE OF TITLE MUSLIM

 

The Quran 22:78

And strive hard in Allah's Cause as you ought to strive He has chosen you  and has not laid upon you in religion any hardship: it is the religion of your father Ibrahim. It is He (Allah) Who has named you MUSLIM both before and in this (the Qur'an), that the Messenger  may be a witness over you and you be witnesses over mankind! So perform As-Salat , give Zakat and hold fast to Allah  He is your Maula  what an Excellent Maula  and what an Excellent Helper.

 

Al-Quran has 24 verses in relation to  title “Muslim” and verse 22:78  clearly mention Allah named us as MUSLIM 

 

Why do them Quranist , Sunni’s & other cults selected their self a different label or tile other then Muslim  ?

 

 

Some Quranist try to argue by saying “ since Allah named you guys as Muslim then why do have other personal individual name for your self, why not just keep name “Muslim” for every single one ?

 

Such nonsense question proves they don’t have any solid arguments, therefore they just like to say anything as possible , while forgetting same question can be ask to them too such as “why do you have different name why not just call your self Quranist instead of having individual personal name ?

 

They don’t even read the verse correctly, otherwise they will not come up with such idiotic question. Anyway the below verse does indicate why they are reluctant to have their own privet title, simply because it give them pleasure and joys   

 

The Quran 23:53

But they (men) have broken their religion among them into sects , each group rejoicing in what is with it.

 

However the verse 33:35 has mention Muslim & Believers separately. Therefore it may have some distinction or reason to it. Otherwise why did Allah mention both separately if they are same ?

 

Also I  have not found any verse which say  “O you who Muslim “ yet I find so many verse which say “O you who believe “ So there must be a reason, since nothing in Al-Quran without reason.

 

My understanding is that, may be Allah used Muslim & Believer separately because     the sincere believer can be found on any of them sects, who follow Quran & other supplementary things such as  hadith, Sunnah, code 19 or Roots word grammar juggling

 

And whenever  any sincere believer from any of them sects stop blind following their gurus and start strictly following what revealed to them, then Allah may allow them to become Muslim, and may be because of that reason the verse 2:62 include all popular sects

 

The Quran 2:62

Surely those who believe, and those who are Jewish, and the Nazarenes, and the Sabiens; any one of them who believes in God and the Last Day, and does good work, they will have their reward with their Lord, with no fear over them, nor will they grieve.

 

 

The below verse 19: 69 indicate Allah will drag out all worse rebellion from them sects, therefore it can be interpreted as, some of ordinary  members may not punished by Allah since they are not worse as their leaders or their hard-core members.

 

The Quran 19:69

Then shall We certainly drag out from every sect all those who were worst in obstinate rebellion against ((Allah)) Most Gracious.

 

The verse 2:128 below has Dua of prophet Ibraheem. therefore every believers have to continue struggling to become Muslim till their last breath and pray Allah not bring death upon them until they are Muslim. And may be for that reason Prophet Ibrahim  [s] make such Dau to Allah to make him a Muslim.

 

The Quran 2:128

Lord, make us Your MUSLIMS and also raise from our offspring a community which should be Muslim . Show us the ways of Your worship and forbear our shortcomings: You are Forgiving and Merciful.

 

QURANIST CORRUPTIONS

 

They have misinterpreted the Quran according to their own desire and they wanted to get rid off all ritual in Islam. And to do that they had to invent new translation and interpretation. Yet they forget the Quran is tafseer of Al-Kitab, therefore just mistranslating and inventing new words, is not going to solve the problem, because of  Al-Kitab. Anyway to understand about Al-Kitab please see the link below

http://thequranthesolution.webs.com/alkitab.htm

 

 

What is the main reason for them to have such concept of no ritual in Islam ?

 

I think it mostly due to their laziness and wanted easy life, like other kufr who deny Islam because they find it very hard to obey. Also may be because of some  Quranist are adopted form Sufism or have some kind of link with the Sufism, therefore may be for that reason they have such concept.

 

Funniest thing is that, their corrupted theory is so weak that Allah doesn’t even need to use any of HIS full verse but just one or two words from it crumple their whole theory very badly.

 

They forget even the Google translator, translate better then them. And if they try to retranslate their transition back to Arabic then they will have complete deferent and a new Quran.

 

Most importantly  they forget about Al-Kitab which Quran need to explain it, now if any explanation is explaining something which not even mention to be explain, then does it make sense, simply NO therefore anything on the Quran had to known by Al-Kitab [the action or habit of mankind which been recoded over them]   

 

Also they mostly end up changing the whole Quran, because as soon as they corrupt one word then it contradict to another, so then they have to translate that word too and then that also contradict to another, and at the end they have confuse longer version of quran which does not make sense.

 

And in this way Allah keep them busy and expose them very badly and Allah keep HIS sincere believer away from them Satanic trick. While allowing the deceivers to damage or confuse their own self.

 

It’s very annoying when I see their bogus translation does not make any sense or fit with context. For that reason I sometime like to have debate with them, but then again what is the point since them corrupters do need to be existed since the al-Quran talk about them, may be it is another type of TEST for the sincere believers

 

I have mentioned below only few of their concocted translation, remember they had to change so-many words in order to get their theories working correctly, yet it still remain weak, anyway see does any of them translation make sense to you?

 

QURANIST BOGUS TRANSLATIONS

 

AS-SALAH = COMMITMENT / CONECTION

 

Al-HAJJ = ARGUMENT / DEBATE

 

As-SAUM = RESTRAIN FROM TALKING

 

Lets analyse their above new translation one by one and let see if the Quran manage to keep it’s message purified  by destroying their theories ?

 

AS-SALAH

 

If As-Salah is not prayer despite the term itself as noun since it has “AS” on front of it. Yet to them its mean commitment, then why dose the verse 22:40 mention “Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues, and Mosques  what does mankind do on them places ?

 

Here is just ONE word “شَطْرَ  Shatra”  which make problem to their theory. Can they translate this single word and make the sentence sensible and why is this word always mention with Masajid ?

 

What does Arabic christen understand by the word As-Salah do they translate as prayer or do they translate as their corrupted translation ?

 

In-fact does any one of the well known translator or even the Google translator translate this as other then Prayer ?

 

AL-HAJJ

If  HAJJ really mean DEBATE as they assume then does people meant to argue each other when they do debate. If so  then why the verse 2:197 saying no argument in HAJJ such as “wala jidala fee alhajji “ . It’s a shame & too bad for Quranist, since one small portion of the verse destroy their corruption easily. Yet they still have to follow their gurus blindly

 

As-SAUM

 

They don’t see the verse 2:183 and they one small portion of that verse which say “kama kutiba AAala allatheena min qablikum “ which indicate FASTING is written over present and previous people another word whole mankind.

 

Now can they show any history which indicate people did not FAST  but understand and practice this word differently, if not then why  this term suddenly changing?

 

And does Allah need to change HIS system despite HE claim NO change ?

 

If As-Saum is NOT fasting then what is Arabic word for FAST?

 

SUBMITTERS CORRUPTIONS

 

Them deceivers are probably worse among all sects in label Islam, since they are only one who rejects verses of Al-Quran without any solid proof whatsoever.

 

They believe al-Quran has code 19 within, and to prove their theory  they play with numbers of the verse and chapters and keep switching  around until they get their so-called miracle 19.Yet they don’t have any set formula of their bogus code.

 

 However to know more about those deceivers please see the links below

 http://thequranthesolution.webs.com/thecode19.htm

 

I do not like to waste anymore time on them. I leave them to their fantasy , but if any of them wish to debate with me, then they are most welcome. And then I will see how long does their garbage last.

 

 

CONCLUSION

 

All of them corrupted sects have to exist, since Al-Quran mention them, otherwise those verses will be wrong. However I do not have anything against any of them sects, it is best for me to leave them on their position, because no matter what solid proof they get, they simply will follow whatever they are following,until Allah’s guidance. And Allah only guide whom HE wish.

 

But my sincere respect & love for those Muslimeen & Muslimaath, whom try their best to follow Al-Quran strictly & sincerely, also don't try to impose their own understanding to others in general, but they advice and encourage their own family & children's. Insha-Allah they are the one who is benefited, they are the one having peace in their hearts and they are the one whom receiving the fruits Imaan [ Allah knows best]