FIGHTING OVER TWO PROPHETS
" ISMAAIL & ISHAAQ"
The label Muslim claim it was prophet Ishmael [s] that attempted “the sacrifice” [of dream that prophet Ibraheem seen ] which took place at Mina a few miles north-east of Makkah. They also believe Ismael was the son of his slave-woman HaZara [which the Quran is fully silent about her identity and 11.71 the term imra'ah, is in the singular which also indicate Abraham [p] may had one wife ] such story is base on manmade Hadtih books. and some of them also say prophet Ismael [s] was the only son at that time test, and the promise of Isaac's birth is mentioned after the completion of the test.
And the Christen/Jew try to prove from their manmade bible [old/new Testament] that child was Ishaq. unfortunately the bible also say so many story which goes against the character of prophet Ibraheem [s]. Also another strong argument of christen is that, if Allah is the author of the Qur'an then why didn’t HE corrected this [Jewish and Christian Scriptures] claim, by mention prophet ismail [s] is the sacrifice son.
However since the Qur'an did not mention the name of the sacrificial son. Therefore to understand this issue or to find any clue I need to observe the book of Allah, but regarless what clue I find It will not be wise for me to say in certain “ who was actually the sacrifice son", since the Quran is silent about, then there must be a reason to it.
And I must not forget the golden role of 3:7 specifically this issue is not relevant to seek the guidance or observe righteous life as according to the Quran. Moreover please note I am just using common translation but every translation may have some error since it is the understanding of a man.
The Quran 2:285
The Messenger believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allah, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. (They say), "We make no Distinction between one another of His Messengers" - and they say, "We hear, and we obey. Your Forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return
The Quran 2:127
And remember Abraham and Isma`il raised the foundations of the House "Our Lord! accept from us; for thou art the All-Hearing the All-Knowing. (127) "Our Lord! Make of us Muslims bowing to Thy (Will) and of our progeny a people Muslim bowing to Thy (Will) and show us our places for the celebration of (due) rites; and turn unto us for Thou art the Oft-Returning Most-Merciful.
The Quran 2:132
And this (submission to Allah, Islam) was enjoined by Ibrahim upon his sons and by Ya'qub (Jacob) (saying), "O my sons! Allah has chosen for you the Deen , then die not except in the Muslima [submissive ].
The Quran 2:133
Or were you witnesses when death approached Ya'qub (Jacob)? When he said unto his sons, "What will you worship after me?" They said, "We shall worship your Ilah ( Allah), the Ilah (Allah) of your fathers, Ibrahim, Isma'il , Ishaq (Isaac), One Ilah (Allah), and to Him we submit .
The Quran 2:136
Say (O Muslims), "We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibrahim, Isma'il, Ishaq Ya'qub and to Al-Asbat and that which has been given to Musa and 'Îsa, and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted."
The Quran 2:140
Or say you that Ibrahim, Isma'il, Ishaq, Ya'qub and Al-Asbat [the offspring of the twelve sons of Ya'qub (Jacob)] were Jews or Christians? Say, "Do you know better or does Allah? And who is more unjust than he who conceals the testimony he has from Allah? And Allah is not unaware of what you do."
The Quran 3:7
He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: in it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are not of well-established meaning. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is not of well-established meaning. Seeking discord, and searching for its interpretation, but no one knows its true meanings except Allah, and those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in it; the whole of it is from our Lord"; and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.
The Quran 3:84
Say "We believe in Allah and in what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down to Ibrahim, Isma'il, Ishaq, Ya'qub and Al-Asbat and what was given to Musa 'Îsa and the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between one another among them and to Him (Allah) we have submitted
The Quran 4:63
Verily, We have sent the revelation to you as We sent the revelation to Nuh and the Prophets after him; We sent the revelation to Ibrahim, Isma'il, Ishaq, Ya'qub and Al-Asbat 'Îsa, Ayyub, Yunus, Harun, and Sulaiman; and to Dawud We gave the Zabur The Quran 11:71-73
And his wife was standing, and she laughed: but We gave her glad tidings of Isaac, and after him of Jacob. (71) She said: "Alas for me! Shall I bear a child, seeing I am an old woman, and my husband here is an old man? That would indeed be a wonderful thing!" (72) They said: "Dost thou wonder at Allah's decree? The grace of Allah and His blessings on you, O ye people of the house! for He is indeed worthy of all praise, full of all glory!"
The Quran 12:6
"Thus will thy Lord choose thee and teach thee the interpretation of stories (and events) and perfect His favour to thee and to the posterity of Jacob― even as He perfected it to thy fathers Abraham and Isaac aforetime! For thy Lord is full of knowledge and wisdom."
The Quran 14:35
And (remember) when Ibrahim said: "O my Lord! Make this city one of peace and security, and keep me and my sons away from worshipping idols.
The Quran 15:53-54
They said: "Fear not! We give thee glad tidings of a son endowed with wisdom." (53) He said: "Do ye give me glad tidings that old age has seized me? Of what, then is your good news?" (54) They said: "We give thee glad tidings in truth: be not then in despair!"
The Quran 29:27
And We gave Isaac and Jacob, and ordained among his progeny Prophet-hood and Revelation, and We granted him his reward in this life; and he was in the Hereafter of the Righteous.
The Quran 33:7
And when We took from the Prophets their covenant, and from you and from Nuh, Ibrahim ,Musa, and 'Îsa son of Maryam. We took from them a strong covenant.
The Quran 37:100-113
My Lord! Grant me (offspring) from the righteous." (100) So We gave him the glad tidings of a forbearing boy. (101) And, when he (his son) was old enough to walk with him, he said: "O my son! I have seen in a dream that I am slaughtering you, so look what you think!" He said: "O my father! Do that which you are commanded, Inshâ' Allâh ,you shall find me of the patient." (102) Then, when they had both submitted themselves, and he had laid him prostrate on his forehead (103) And We called out to him: "O Abraham! (104) You have fulfilled the dream!" Verily! thus do We reward the Muhsinûn. (105) Verily, that indeed was a manifest trial. (106) And We ransomed him with a great sacrifice (107) And We left for him among the later generations. (108) Salâmun (peace) be upon Ibrâhim (Abraham)!" (109) Thus indeed do We reward the Muhsinûn (110) Verily, he was one of Our believing slaves. (111) And We gave him the glad tidings of Ishâq (Isaac) a Prophet from the righteous. (112) We blessed him and Ishâq and of their progeny are that do right, and some that plainly wrong themselves.
The Quran 51:28:30
When they did not eat), He conceived a fear of them. They said "Fear not" and they gave him glad tidings of a son endowed with knowledge. (28) But his wife came forward (laughing) aloud: she smote her forehead and said: "A barren old woman!" (29) They said "Even so has thy Lord spoken: and He is full of Wisdom and Knowledge."
MAIN POINTS FROM OF ABOVE VERSES
[2:285] The true believer should not create distinction between The Messengers/prophets.
[3:7] this verse clearly indicate anything related to “Law” of Allah is clearly mention but the other verse which is used to give example or sometime to make thing more clear and some of them verse is not understandable but the true believer they believe on everything is form Allah regardless they understand it or not
[2:127] this indicate the both prophet was on same era and help each other to establish the Deen of Allah and maintain the House of Allah and asking the “Dowah” so it is reasonable to understand that this could be the earlier time of prophet ibraheem propagation of Allah’s massage.
[2:132 &14:35] Verse indicate prophet Ibraheem had more sons Not just one or two
[ 2:133] When Prophet Yaqub sons answered to him, it seem they know them [ Ibraheem,Ismail,Ishaq] well, so that too indicate they are relative to each other
[ 2:136 ,2: 140 & 3:84 4:63] This verses also indicate they[ Ibrahim,Isma'il,IshaqYa'qub] have close family link to each other since their name been mention categorically in compressed.
[11:71,15:53 & 51:29] This verse directly mention prophet Isaaq [P] was born in the old age of prophet Ibraheem & his wife.
[12:6] This also indicate Prophet Isaac was son of prophet Ibraheem.
[ 29:27] This indicate Ishaq and Yaqub are brother to each other & also sons of prophet Ibraheem [P]
[ 33:7] This is very important verse to understand this issue since the prophets name mention on this are more likely not close family link to each other and may be that reason this verse is not mentioning the name of prophets Ismail,Ishak YaQub .[Allah knows Best]
[ 37:100-113] This verse clearly dose not say the name of the Child whom was attempt to sacrifice. However it also indicate that after the trial completed then the good news was given of the child Isaaq. Another point since the term [Wa=and] indicate prophet ibrahim has more child before Isaaq[Allah knows best].
The whole issue between label Muslim sect and Christen sect is to have some kind of pride over their own Messenger/Prophet genetic link[offspring of Ishac or Ismail] so they can conclude their messenger is "the great" and came for the whole humanity but they both forget it is not the messenger, but it is the " Message itself "which are the peace and mercy for the humanity.
Anyway such concept of pride-ness is nothing but another kind of idol-worship. and it is very important for them each sect to prove that their Messenger/Prophet [ISA or Muhammed ] is from the most bless child whom have been sacrifice and in relation to this they made up so many story in Hadith books and Bible.
The christen try to say"- Why the Quran did not correct such claim of the bible [the sacrifice child is Isaaq] when it was revealing?
Answer to Above question is simple” Can they [Christen] say or prove that, the bible of that time did made such claim ?
And how can they, When it has several version and it get keep updated time to time,& it alos has so many contradictory statement like the hadith books.
Is it impossible that they[Christen] seen the Quran is silent on this particular issue so quickly inserted such concept [Isaaq the sacrifice child] in their manmade bible to be superior from Muslim?
Is it also impossible that sectarian label Muslim also followed them [christen] by inserting their concept [Ishmael the sacrifice child] it into their manmade hadith books to counter christen ?
Anyway I believe this is not a valid issue or important fact that I should bother about. And why should I say something which Allah did not mention ?.
What that got to do with Isa [P] & Muhammed [P] messengership / prophethood ?
What different does it make if Isa or Muhammad was offspring of Ismail or Ishaq?
Anyway by the indication of them above verses it is quite clear that Prophet Ibraheem had more childrens. Therefore such attempt may be made to any one of his child.
Also their is highest possibility that the Prophets Isa & Muhammed is NOT close related to any of the children of Prophet Ibraheem since the verse 38:7 do indicate if we ponder on it.However it is NOT a factor even if they were link to prophet Ismail or Ishaq [Allah knows best ]